VW: 1.2 litre 3-cylinder petrol engine, 1.2 litre and 1.4 litre FSI and TSI and TFSI up to 2012 when replaced by belt cam EA211, 1.6 litre FSI, 1.8 litre TSI 160, 2.0 litre 1,984cc 2-1PS EA888 TFSI from 2009, Golf VR5 and VR6, Sharan VR6, all Touareg, all Phaeton (later VW 2.5 5 cylinder diesels and 5.0 V10 diesels have gear train driven. B5 S4, C5 A6 / Allroad – 2.7 Bi-Turbo Timing Belt Kit B6 A4, C5 A6 – 3.0L V6 Timing Belt Kit MK1 TT – 1.8T Timing Belt Kit. Please let me know what you think of this article or if you think I should include any other information in it. Category: General January 25, 2018 3 Comments. Actually the firing order is 1-5-4-8-6-3-7-2 for a right hand rotation engine. All engines have a firing order, diesels fire from compression versus spark for gasoline/propane and the like.
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Volkswagen Timing
Volkswagen Timing
Correct engine timing is crucial for getting top performance and life out of your engine. And if your ignition timing is off, your engine's life and performance will suffer. If you engine's ignition timing is retarded too much, you will have a hard time getting your engine to idle, have pronounced 'flat spots' during acceleration and have a loss in overall power. If your engine's ignition timing is advanced too far, you'll experience 'pre-detonation' which can destroy your engine in no time. It is therefore imperative that you set your VW timing as accurately as possible.
Timing Setting
VW timing recommendations are a often based on your VW's year and model. And if everything in your VW is original and well maintained, this should be fine. But if you are the third owner, and have no idea what your VW came nor what 'upgrades' have occurred over the years, you will first need to determine what distributor you are running. VisitThe Old Volks Home - Distributor Interchange Bosch To VW Number and look up the part number on your distributor. Then check out the applications and Distributor Parts & Specifications to include the timing recommendations.
If you are running a Bosch 009 'performance' distributor, you will need to set the timing at 30 (32 max) degrees at 3000 RPMs.
Timing the Bosch 009
Marking Pulley
It is entirely possible that you don't have a pulley that matches your distributor and are confused about the markings on your pulley. The first thing to do may be to invest in a laser engraved pulley with degree marking on it. These are great for setting ignition timing, adjusting your valves and they look sharp to boot. Do note that a few low quality ones are marked incorrectly.
If you don't want a fancy modern pulley, you should visitFinding Top Dead Center/Crankshaft Pulley and figure out where TDC is. At TDC for the #1 piston, your crank pulley key should be facing the 9 o'clock position.
Goniometer
Once you find TDC, you can either confirm the marking on your pulley or mark new ones. The easiest way to go about this is to use a goniometer, which is fancy 'protractor' for measuring angles. If you don't have access to one of these tools, you can use simple math to find measurements on your pulley.
Finding Degrees:
Finding Arc Length:
Timing 1 7 20
Static Timing
Static timing is a poor man's way of setting your timing. It can be done with light probe or voltmeter and allows you to get to a safe start point, such as when you are setting up your engine for the first time or swamping in a spare distributor while on the road.
If you are setting timing on a new engine, you will need to reset it later on after it's warmed up and you have completed your initial break-in. If you are setting timing on an 'old' engine, you should run it to operating temp prior to setting timing.
Timing 1020 John Deere
Tools needed for Static Timing:
- 19mm box end wrench.
- Flat tip screwdriver.
- 10mm wrench.
- A simple test light.
Static Timing Steps
- Figure out the specifications for your engine timing. You may need to consult a repair manual or look up your distributor (see above). A Bosch 009 has a static setting of 5 to 7.5deg BTDC.
You may see one of three abbreviations: BTDC, TDC and/or ATDC related to your timing specs.- BTDC - Before Top Dead Center. This is a measurement in degrees prior to the engine reaching top dead center. Since the crank pulley rotates clockwise, BTDC is clockwise or to the RIGHT of TDC.
5 Degrees BTDC
- TDC - Top Dead Center. This is when the number one piston is at its highest point on its compression stroke.
TDC
- ATDC - After Top Dead Center. This is a measurement in degrees after to the engine reaching top dead center. Since the crank pulley rotates clockwise, ATDC is counterclockwise (past the point that TDC was reached) or to the LEFT of TDC.
5 degrees ATDC
- BTDC - Before Top Dead Center. This is a measurement in degrees prior to the engine reaching top dead center. Since the crank pulley rotates clockwise, BTDC is clockwise or to the RIGHT of TDC.
- Use a 19mm wrench to rotate your crank pulley clockwise to your timing set point. You can either rotate your alternator pulley or crank pulley directly. If you pass your timing point, turn the crank pulley counterclockwise about 30 degrees and then turn it back clockwise to your set point. Your timing position is set when your timing set point on your crank pulley lines up with the seem at the midline of your engine.
- Use a flat tip screwdriver to remove the distributor cap and position it out of the way. You should see a thin machined line at where the cap sat. This is the point were the rotor will point at when the #1 piston is ready to fire, assuming that the distributor drive gear was put in correctly when the engine was built.
- Use your 10 wrench to loosen the distributor drive clamp bolt.
- Turn the vehicle's ignition switch to the 'ON' position. DO NOT ENGAGE THE STARTER! If you accidentally hit the starter, go back and redo step 2.
- Connect the ground wire of your test light to a good ground and touch the positive spike to the spade connector on the ignition points. The light should be 'ON'.
- Rotate the distributor clockwise until the light goes out.
- Now rotate the distributor Counterclockwise very slowly until the light JUST comes on. Repeat steps 7 & 8 again to ensure you stopped the distributor JUST as the light came on.
- Tighten your distributor clamp.
- Test your good work by turning the engine 90 degrees (1/4 turn) Counterclockwise and slowly turning it back clockwise. The light should come back on JUST as the degree mark in which you previously had the crank set to gets to the case half. If it does, your engine is now timed. If it doesn't, repeat this entire procedure until it does.
- You are now finished setting your static timing and are ready to set your Strobe Timing.
Strobe Timing Your Engine
Once you have determined that your distributor is within specs and functioning properly, then it's time to set the timing. Once you get to static timing set, grab a timing light and get to work.
Tools needed for Strobe Timing:
- 10mm wrench.
- Timing strobe light.
- tachometer.
Strobe Timing Steps
Depending on your distributor and engine, you may need to set timing at various depending on engine RPMs. If you are provided with different timing set points and don't have a computerize ignition system, you should set your timing to Total Advance or at the highest RPM spec you are provided with. For a Bosch 009, you will want to set timing to 30 degrees BTDC at 3,000 RPMs.
- Connect the tachometer and timing light.
- Disconnect and plug the distributor's vacuum lines.
- Start your VW.
- Use your 10mm wrench to slightly loosen the distributor clamp. You will want to rotate your distributor, but not have it rotate on its own.
- Run the engine up to the point where the distributor's advance mechanisms are at full advance as evidenced by the strobe light.
- Twist the distributor body to set the timing. This is generally set at between 30 - 32 degrees BTDC (but no more than 32 degrees) for most configurations, including the Bosch 009.
- Snug down the distributor clamp, reconnect vacuum lines (if disconnected for timing as specified for your distributor).
- Check/set the idle at between 850 - 950 RPMs and take the car for a spin to see how it runs under load.
If you experience any pre-detonation (pinging), retard your timing a degree or two and test drive it again. Repeat this until you have good power without pre-detonation.
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Timing 1 7 2 Esv
Ignition Timing
Timing dynamically is fairly simple and is the best way to time your engine. Static timing is good for a baseline adjustment, but real accuracy requires a timing light. You can get a timing light for about $30 at Wal-Mart, so it's not a big expenditure and is a wise investment. To set timing you will also need a tach/dwell meter.
The first step to setting your timing is to adjust your valves. Valve adjusting is to be done on a stone cold engine and is a topic for another procedure, but John Muir explains well how to do it in his Idiot book. If you have a '78 or later Bus with hydraulic valve lifters, you can skip this step.
Once that's done, you need to adjust your points. NEVER set the timing before setting the point gap. Changing the point gap changes the timing.
Once that's done, you can proceed to set your idle speed. Do not adjust the timing until you've adjusted the idle speed to specifications (usually between 800 and 1000 rpm on the VW engine). Idle speed adjustment can only be done on a warm engine. This is where you need the tach/dwell meter.
OK, now that you've done all the above, you can mess with your timing. First look at your timing light. You will see two alligator clip type leads and a black box lead. The two alligator clip leads are for power and ground for the timing light, red is power and black is ground. the black box is the inductive pickup. You simply clip the inductive lead over the spark plug wire for the #1 cylinder (cylinder numbers are stamped on the tin next to each cylinder). OK, so you've been out driving and the engine's all nice and warm and you just adjusted your idle speed to spec. OK, turn off the engine. The first thing you'll want to do here is mark the timing notch on the pulley with something to make it more visible. Chalk or white-out do wonders. You can crank the engine around with a wrench on the alternator nut to bring the timing notch into view, and then mark it with chalk or whatever.
Now, hook up your timing light. Clip the power lead to the + terminal on the battery or the + side of the coil (make sure it's the + side or you'll blow that sucker -- ask me how I know). You want to hook the power lead of the timing light to the terminal on the coil that the condenser does NOT connect to.
Clip the ground lead to a good ground. Hook the inductive pickup on the #1 spark plug wire and then start the engine.
Also, at this point, if your engine needs to be timed with a vacuum hose disconnected, this is a good time to disconnect and plug it. Pencils make good plugs.
Now, you've started the engine. Let it idle, check your idle speed again just to make sure it's within spec. OK, pull the trigger on your timing light. You should see the strobe flash in time with the engine. If not, check your ground. Some places that seem like good grounds really aren't. Now, point the strobe at the crankshaft pulley. You should be able to see the strobe highlight your timing notch. Then look where it is in relation to where it's supposed to be. On a Type 1 engine, the notch is supposed to line up with the crack in the engine case (case seam). On the Type 4 engine, the notch should line up with the proper number on the plastic timing scale. If it doesn't, you need to make the adjustment.
What you do now is get out your 10mm wrench. Look toward the bottom of the distributor, you will see a clamp that goes around the distributor body with a 10mm nut holding it closed. Loosen this 10mm nut a bit and slowly turn the distributor body by hand while watching the timing mark in the strobe light. As you turn the distributor body, you will see the mark move and probably hear the change in engine speed. Turn the distributor so the mark moves to where it's supposed to be and then tighten the 10mm nut.
That's it, you've timed your engine!!
As an addendum to this topic, I've had a couple people ask me questions about timing a Type 1 engine which just has a notch in the pulley. Pdf reader free download for windows 7. I've been asked what value the notch represents.
The best answer I can give you is that it depends. First it depends on you having the correct pulley for your engine, which is not always the case. Secondly it depends on the year of your engine what the timing spec is. Your best bet is to look in the Bentley manual for your year and find your timing spec. It should show you what the different notches stand for for that year. Some have only one notch, in which case that's the notch that should line up with the seam in the crankcase, however some have 3 notches which represent different timing settings. Consult the manual to be sure.
Contact:
Volkswagen Timing
Volkswagen Timing
Correct engine timing is crucial for getting top performance and life out of your engine. And if your ignition timing is off, your engine's life and performance will suffer. If you engine's ignition timing is retarded too much, you will have a hard time getting your engine to idle, have pronounced 'flat spots' during acceleration and have a loss in overall power. If your engine's ignition timing is advanced too far, you'll experience 'pre-detonation' which can destroy your engine in no time. It is therefore imperative that you set your VW timing as accurately as possible.
Timing Setting
VW timing recommendations are a often based on your VW's year and model. And if everything in your VW is original and well maintained, this should be fine. But if you are the third owner, and have no idea what your VW came nor what 'upgrades' have occurred over the years, you will first need to determine what distributor you are running. VisitThe Old Volks Home - Distributor Interchange Bosch To VW Number and look up the part number on your distributor. Then check out the applications and Distributor Parts & Specifications to include the timing recommendations.
If you are running a Bosch 009 'performance' distributor, you will need to set the timing at 30 (32 max) degrees at 3000 RPMs.
Timing the Bosch 009
Marking Pulley
It is entirely possible that you don't have a pulley that matches your distributor and are confused about the markings on your pulley. The first thing to do may be to invest in a laser engraved pulley with degree marking on it. These are great for setting ignition timing, adjusting your valves and they look sharp to boot. Do note that a few low quality ones are marked incorrectly.
If you don't want a fancy modern pulley, you should visitFinding Top Dead Center/Crankshaft Pulley and figure out where TDC is. At TDC for the #1 piston, your crank pulley key should be facing the 9 o'clock position.
Goniometer
Once you find TDC, you can either confirm the marking on your pulley or mark new ones. The easiest way to go about this is to use a goniometer, which is fancy 'protractor' for measuring angles. If you don't have access to one of these tools, you can use simple math to find measurements on your pulley.
Finding Degrees:
Finding Arc Length:
Timing 1 7 20
Static Timing
Static timing is a poor man's way of setting your timing. It can be done with light probe or voltmeter and allows you to get to a safe start point, such as when you are setting up your engine for the first time or swamping in a spare distributor while on the road.
If you are setting timing on a new engine, you will need to reset it later on after it's warmed up and you have completed your initial break-in. If you are setting timing on an 'old' engine, you should run it to operating temp prior to setting timing.
Timing 1020 John Deere
Tools needed for Static Timing:
- 19mm box end wrench.
- Flat tip screwdriver.
- 10mm wrench.
- A simple test light.
Static Timing Steps
- Figure out the specifications for your engine timing. You may need to consult a repair manual or look up your distributor (see above). A Bosch 009 has a static setting of 5 to 7.5deg BTDC.
You may see one of three abbreviations: BTDC, TDC and/or ATDC related to your timing specs.- BTDC - Before Top Dead Center. This is a measurement in degrees prior to the engine reaching top dead center. Since the crank pulley rotates clockwise, BTDC is clockwise or to the RIGHT of TDC.
5 Degrees BTDC
- TDC - Top Dead Center. This is when the number one piston is at its highest point on its compression stroke.
TDC
- ATDC - After Top Dead Center. This is a measurement in degrees after to the engine reaching top dead center. Since the crank pulley rotates clockwise, ATDC is counterclockwise (past the point that TDC was reached) or to the LEFT of TDC.
5 degrees ATDC
- BTDC - Before Top Dead Center. This is a measurement in degrees prior to the engine reaching top dead center. Since the crank pulley rotates clockwise, BTDC is clockwise or to the RIGHT of TDC.
- Use a 19mm wrench to rotate your crank pulley clockwise to your timing set point. You can either rotate your alternator pulley or crank pulley directly. If you pass your timing point, turn the crank pulley counterclockwise about 30 degrees and then turn it back clockwise to your set point. Your timing position is set when your timing set point on your crank pulley lines up with the seem at the midline of your engine.
- Use a flat tip screwdriver to remove the distributor cap and position it out of the way. You should see a thin machined line at where the cap sat. This is the point were the rotor will point at when the #1 piston is ready to fire, assuming that the distributor drive gear was put in correctly when the engine was built.
- Use your 10 wrench to loosen the distributor drive clamp bolt.
- Turn the vehicle's ignition switch to the 'ON' position. DO NOT ENGAGE THE STARTER! If you accidentally hit the starter, go back and redo step 2.
- Connect the ground wire of your test light to a good ground and touch the positive spike to the spade connector on the ignition points. The light should be 'ON'.
- Rotate the distributor clockwise until the light goes out.
- Now rotate the distributor Counterclockwise very slowly until the light JUST comes on. Repeat steps 7 & 8 again to ensure you stopped the distributor JUST as the light came on.
- Tighten your distributor clamp.
- Test your good work by turning the engine 90 degrees (1/4 turn) Counterclockwise and slowly turning it back clockwise. The light should come back on JUST as the degree mark in which you previously had the crank set to gets to the case half. If it does, your engine is now timed. If it doesn't, repeat this entire procedure until it does.
- You are now finished setting your static timing and are ready to set your Strobe Timing.
Strobe Timing Your Engine
Once you have determined that your distributor is within specs and functioning properly, then it's time to set the timing. Once you get to static timing set, grab a timing light and get to work.
Tools needed for Strobe Timing:
- 10mm wrench.
- Timing strobe light.
- tachometer.
Strobe Timing Steps
Depending on your distributor and engine, you may need to set timing at various depending on engine RPMs. If you are provided with different timing set points and don't have a computerize ignition system, you should set your timing to Total Advance or at the highest RPM spec you are provided with. For a Bosch 009, you will want to set timing to 30 degrees BTDC at 3,000 RPMs.
- Connect the tachometer and timing light.
- Disconnect and plug the distributor's vacuum lines.
- Start your VW.
- Use your 10mm wrench to slightly loosen the distributor clamp. You will want to rotate your distributor, but not have it rotate on its own.
- Run the engine up to the point where the distributor's advance mechanisms are at full advance as evidenced by the strobe light.
- Twist the distributor body to set the timing. This is generally set at between 30 - 32 degrees BTDC (but no more than 32 degrees) for most configurations, including the Bosch 009.
- Snug down the distributor clamp, reconnect vacuum lines (if disconnected for timing as specified for your distributor).
- Check/set the idle at between 850 - 950 RPMs and take the car for a spin to see how it runs under load.
If you experience any pre-detonation (pinging), retard your timing a degree or two and test drive it again. Repeat this until you have good power without pre-detonation.
Please feel free to link to this site so that others can find it. It's easy to link to this site, just copy one of the texts below onto your web page:
Express vpn torrent. <a href='http://VW.zenseeker.net/'>Zen's VW Baja</a>
Nch zulu 5 02. Copyright © 2000-2010
Timing 1 7 2 Esv
Ignition Timing
Timing dynamically is fairly simple and is the best way to time your engine. Static timing is good for a baseline adjustment, but real accuracy requires a timing light. You can get a timing light for about $30 at Wal-Mart, so it's not a big expenditure and is a wise investment. To set timing you will also need a tach/dwell meter.
The first step to setting your timing is to adjust your valves. Valve adjusting is to be done on a stone cold engine and is a topic for another procedure, but John Muir explains well how to do it in his Idiot book. If you have a '78 or later Bus with hydraulic valve lifters, you can skip this step.
Once that's done, you need to adjust your points. NEVER set the timing before setting the point gap. Changing the point gap changes the timing.
Once that's done, you can proceed to set your idle speed. Do not adjust the timing until you've adjusted the idle speed to specifications (usually between 800 and 1000 rpm on the VW engine). Idle speed adjustment can only be done on a warm engine. This is where you need the tach/dwell meter.
OK, now that you've done all the above, you can mess with your timing. First look at your timing light. You will see two alligator clip type leads and a black box lead. The two alligator clip leads are for power and ground for the timing light, red is power and black is ground. the black box is the inductive pickup. You simply clip the inductive lead over the spark plug wire for the #1 cylinder (cylinder numbers are stamped on the tin next to each cylinder). OK, so you've been out driving and the engine's all nice and warm and you just adjusted your idle speed to spec. OK, turn off the engine. The first thing you'll want to do here is mark the timing notch on the pulley with something to make it more visible. Chalk or white-out do wonders. You can crank the engine around with a wrench on the alternator nut to bring the timing notch into view, and then mark it with chalk or whatever.
Now, hook up your timing light. Clip the power lead to the + terminal on the battery or the + side of the coil (make sure it's the + side or you'll blow that sucker -- ask me how I know). You want to hook the power lead of the timing light to the terminal on the coil that the condenser does NOT connect to.
Clip the ground lead to a good ground. Hook the inductive pickup on the #1 spark plug wire and then start the engine.
Also, at this point, if your engine needs to be timed with a vacuum hose disconnected, this is a good time to disconnect and plug it. Pencils make good plugs.
Now, you've started the engine. Let it idle, check your idle speed again just to make sure it's within spec. OK, pull the trigger on your timing light. You should see the strobe flash in time with the engine. If not, check your ground. Some places that seem like good grounds really aren't. Now, point the strobe at the crankshaft pulley. You should be able to see the strobe highlight your timing notch. Then look where it is in relation to where it's supposed to be. On a Type 1 engine, the notch is supposed to line up with the crack in the engine case (case seam). On the Type 4 engine, the notch should line up with the proper number on the plastic timing scale. If it doesn't, you need to make the adjustment.
What you do now is get out your 10mm wrench. Look toward the bottom of the distributor, you will see a clamp that goes around the distributor body with a 10mm nut holding it closed. Loosen this 10mm nut a bit and slowly turn the distributor body by hand while watching the timing mark in the strobe light. As you turn the distributor body, you will see the mark move and probably hear the change in engine speed. Turn the distributor so the mark moves to where it's supposed to be and then tighten the 10mm nut.
That's it, you've timed your engine!!
As an addendum to this topic, I've had a couple people ask me questions about timing a Type 1 engine which just has a notch in the pulley. Pdf reader free download for windows 7. I've been asked what value the notch represents.
The best answer I can give you is that it depends. First it depends on you having the correct pulley for your engine, which is not always the case. Secondly it depends on the year of your engine what the timing spec is. Your best bet is to look in the Bentley manual for your year and find your timing spec. It should show you what the different notches stand for for that year. Some have only one notch, in which case that's the notch that should line up with the seam in the crankcase, however some have 3 notches which represent different timing settings. Consult the manual to be sure.
If you have a Type 4 engine, this should not be an issue. A Type 4 engine has a plastic or metal timing scale attached to the fan housing right by the pulley. You just line the notch up with the correct number on the scale. If your timing scale is missing, go buy a new one. They are still available.